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	<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/</link>
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		<title>by: Sloan</title>
		<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-712</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>She's talking about seduction - the definition of advertising. She was influenced by a carefully crafted, massively resourced seduction. She had free will, but was very young, vulnerable, and at risk for alcohol abuse. If 18 year-old girls were not part of the campaign's target, I wonder if the team was subconsciously seducing that demo out of their own hidden desires. The slogans hit a nerve with her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s talking about seduction - the definition of advertising. She was influenced by a carefully crafted, massively resourced seduction. She had free will, but was very young, vulnerable, and at risk for alcohol abuse. If 18 year-old girls were not part of the campaign&#8217;s target, I wonder if the team was subconsciously seducing that demo out of their own hidden desires. The slogans hit a nerve with her.
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		<title>by: James-H</title>
		<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-492</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-492</guid>
					<description>Look at the bright side, your work was memorable to someone who was otherwise prone to serious blackouts. 

I disagree with Kate. I NEED a better car. And a drink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the bright side, your work was memorable to someone who was otherwise prone to serious blackouts. </p>
<p>I disagree with Kate. I NEED a better car. And a drink.
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		<title>by: Mack Simpson</title>
		<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-485</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-485</guid>
					<description>Limiting my conjecture to the words actually written on the page, I believe she was speaking to the Tequiza work targeting women in a way she feels actually works on them: using a hint of sex as if it were perfume on a wrist. By extension, she—being a woman and, specifically, a woman prone to binge drinking—went looking for a boogey man and used the campaign to buttress her case.

I have several problems with this. The first, as should be evident to people working in advertising from the background I provided on the campaign (and it was one of the reasons I provided the back story in the first place—since my blog is mainly read by others in the business), is the work wasn’t about sex; it was about boldness. Secondly, as should be evident from the radio example, the campaign didn’t target women; it targeted men.

Certainly, it didn’t target anyone who was underage. No sexy television, no raucous parties, no hard bodies thinking other hard bodies are cool simply because of the glint coming off the bottle in their hand. Just smart, adult copy lines appearing in smart, adult locations. To further adult-i-fy it, consumers needed to have prior experience with tequila to really understand what was going on within the campaign, anyway.

I would have been more clear on these points had I expected the post to gain extremely wide distribution through Gawker.

My presumption is she tried it at one of her (apparently many) keg parties, liked its boutique flavor profile and then backtracked for a reason why. She picked the two lines, out of the roughly twenty that ran, that were tangentially related to anything of a sexual nature and focused in on them, “because that’s what sells to women.” Magico-presto, it’s advertising’s fault.

Like I said in the post, advertising simply cannot hold a gun to someone’s head and order them to buy something. Advertising cannot &lt;i&gt;make&lt;/i&gt; people do anything. The best of it provides a rationale for purchase that people can use within their own decision-making process. The worst of it creates a fallacy of rationale which thoughtful people are able to discern and discount. Advertising doesn’t mug people on the street. Only people who are willing to abdicate their own personal responsibilities—or those who feel they’re smarter than everyone else—seem to think otherwise. (I’m not throwing you in here; I’m simply making an observation on those who would damn advertising for every ill suffered by society.)

Why not blame advertising for my having eaten that quadruple-meat cheeseburger when it’s so much more painful to consider the fact I’m simply, and basely, a glutton?

Why not construct a boogey man out of advertising from which to lead the “sheeple,” prophet-like, when it’s so much more difficult to address the internal emotional and psychological inequalities that lead people to excessive consumption—of intoxicants, luxury goods, fast food, baseball cards, shoes, little black dresses, &lt;i&gt;whatever&lt;/i&gt;—in the first place?

I haven’t deluded myself into believing advertising isn’t powerful; I know it is, just as I know that any mass media operation—music, film, the news—is. But I also haven’t deluded myself into thinking it’s &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; powerful than it really is because, if it were, every campaign that aired would result in 100% success and that’s simply not the case.

What gave me pause wasn’t the thought that my campaign was so powerful as to drive a young woman to drink—I know it wasn’t—but that someone would specifically call out my work as being not only a root cause of personal pain but also a deliberately sinister and premeditated source of harm to 50% of the population.

That's something that, despite working in the evil, evil world of advertising, doesn't happen every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limiting my conjecture to the words actually written on the page, I believe she was speaking to the Tequiza work targeting women in a way she feels actually works on them: using a hint of sex as if it were perfume on a wrist. By extension, she—being a woman and, specifically, a woman prone to binge drinking—went looking for a boogey man and used the campaign to buttress her case.</p>
<p>I have several problems with this. The first, as should be evident to people working in advertising from the background I provided on the campaign (and it was one of the reasons I provided the back story in the first place—since my blog is mainly read by others in the business), is the work wasn’t about sex; it was about boldness. Secondly, as should be evident from the radio example, the campaign didn’t target women; it targeted men.</p>
<p>Certainly, it didn’t target anyone who was underage. No sexy television, no raucous parties, no hard bodies thinking other hard bodies are cool simply because of the glint coming off the bottle in their hand. Just smart, adult copy lines appearing in smart, adult locations. To further adult-i-fy it, consumers needed to have prior experience with tequila to really understand what was going on within the campaign, anyway.</p>
<p>I would have been more clear on these points had I expected the post to gain extremely wide distribution through Gawker.</p>
<p>My presumption is she tried it at one of her (apparently many) keg parties, liked its boutique flavor profile and then backtracked for a reason why. She picked the two lines, out of the roughly twenty that ran, that were tangentially related to anything of a sexual nature and focused in on them, “because that’s what sells to women.” Magico-presto, it’s advertising’s fault.</p>
<p>Like I said in the post, advertising simply cannot hold a gun to someone’s head and order them to buy something. Advertising cannot <i>make</i> people do anything. The best of it provides a rationale for purchase that people can use within their own decision-making process. The worst of it creates a fallacy of rationale which thoughtful people are able to discern and discount. Advertising doesn’t mug people on the street. Only people who are willing to abdicate their own personal responsibilities—or those who feel they’re smarter than everyone else—seem to think otherwise. (I’m not throwing you in here; I’m simply making an observation on those who would damn advertising for every ill suffered by society.)</p>
<p>Why not blame advertising for my having eaten that quadruple-meat cheeseburger when it’s so much more painful to consider the fact I’m simply, and basely, a glutton?</p>
<p>Why not construct a boogey man out of advertising from which to lead the “sheeple,” prophet-like, when it’s so much more difficult to address the internal emotional and psychological inequalities that lead people to excessive consumption—of intoxicants, luxury goods, fast food, baseball cards, shoes, little black dresses, <i>whatever</i>—in the first place?</p>
<p>I haven’t deluded myself into believing advertising isn’t powerful; I know it is, just as I know that any mass media operation—music, film, the news—is. But I also haven’t deluded myself into thinking it’s <i>more</i> powerful than it really is because, if it were, every campaign that aired would result in 100% success and that’s simply not the case.</p>
<p>What gave me pause wasn’t the thought that my campaign was so powerful as to drive a young woman to drink—I know it wasn’t—but that someone would specifically call out my work as being not only a root cause of personal pain but also a deliberately sinister and premeditated source of harm to 50% of the population.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s something that, despite working in the evil, evil world of advertising, doesn&#8217;t happen every day.
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		<title>by: Kate</title>
		<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-484</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hrm. I don't think she's blaming your work. I think she's talking about the general culture we live in. I guess it surprises me that it never occurred to you that advertising does get people to do things that they wouldn't do on their own. In fact, that's its purpose -- no one NEEDS a fancy car, a pack of smokes, a better drink -- but we live in a culture where we are taught constantly through the power of advertising that our lives will be better with that newer shinier product. When that thing happens to be an addictive mind altering substance, you're kind of playing with the devil. I'm no puritan, I'm just pointing out that advertising is a pretty sticky profession to be in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrm. I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;s blaming your work. I think she&#8217;s talking about the general culture we live in. I guess it surprises me that it never occurred to you that advertising does get people to do things that they wouldn&#8217;t do on their own. In fact, that&#8217;s its purpose &#8212; no one NEEDS a fancy car, a pack of smokes, a better drink &#8212; but we live in a culture where we are taught constantly through the power of advertising that our lives will be better with that newer shinier product. When that thing happens to be an addictive mind altering substance, you&#8217;re kind of playing with the devil. I&#8217;m no puritan, I&#8217;m just pointing out that advertising is a pretty sticky profession to be in.
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		<title>by: Mack Simpson</title>
		<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-481</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-481</guid>
					<description>Good point.</description>
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		<title>by: makehelogobigger</title>
		<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-480</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-480</guid>
					<description>Enjoy your glory. You earned it. Why should people who didn't have fucked-up childhoods be made to feel guilty about it?

I am so tired of 'my parents didn't love me' or 'I had a rough childhood', so I need to blame something for it. And oh, btw, let me profit off of it. Well, that's bullshit.

Know what? Way it goes. Your ad work has zilch to do with her life’s problems. Because if that's the case, then I'd counter by saying she only has success &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; she drank all those years.

Kind of ironical, aint it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoy your glory. You earned it. Why should people who didn&#8217;t have fucked-up childhoods be made to feel guilty about it?</p>
<p>I am so tired of &#8216;my parents didn&#8217;t love me&#8217; or &#8216;I had a rough childhood&#8217;, so I need to blame something for it. And oh, btw, let me profit off of it. Well, that&#8217;s bullshit.</p>
<p>Know what? Way it goes. Your ad work has zilch to do with her life’s problems. Because if that&#8217;s the case, then I&#8217;d counter by saying she only has success <i>because</i> she drank all those years.</p>
<p>Kind of ironical, aint it.
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		<title>by: Memartin</title>
		<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-479</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>that's right! 
191-192 sounds great, even in that kinda book :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s right!<br />
191-192 sounds great, even in that kinda book <img src='http://macksimpson.com/adverb/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Mack Simpson</title>
		<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-477</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 04:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah. Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. Wow.
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		<title>by: Dabitch</title>
		<link>http://macksimpson.com/adverb/2006/08/07/famous-but-not-in-a-good-way/#comment-476</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.
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